Signal has perfect forward secrecy, nip17 does not. White Noise and 0xchat’s “secret chats” have better mechanisms for forward secrecy.
That being said I still do not use Signal, because requiring a phone number is now a no-go for me. I don’t use any apps that don’t have public key identity now. For messaging I use Session, a signal fork that does not require a phone number.
weev
npub1we…409xg
2025-12-19 13:29:28 UTC
in reply to nevent1q…m75e
Author Public Key
npub1weev88wc43slz6jjlq2h30ltmd0ccu9utfe8wet2kkax0w6epavqw409xgPublished at
2025-12-19 13:29:28 UTCEvent JSON
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